So, if this is ‘Career 2.0’ – has your mindset for MADE been more akin to filming for This Is Skateboarding rather than if it was just the next part after Stay Gold?
(Laughs). Well strangely it hasn’t been like either. With This Is Skateboarding I didn’t have to be intentional about anything and that video part just kind of fell out of my ass because that is how you are when you’re a teenager. It didn’t feel like Stay Gold or any other part because with those I was just trying to appease my sponsors. It was like doing a school project or something. I mean it was such a fun time in my life but I never got super intentional about any of it.
Were you disappointed in your Stay Gold part at all?
Yeah, I mean there aren’t a lot of parts where I feel proud but Stay Gold is pretty hard for me to watch. At a certain point during this project I actually looked back at it for the first time in its entirety and I don’t like it much at all, (laughs). It’s hard for me to watch. That was a super fun experience but it was also super stressful. It didn’t have that fucking magic to me of what you love about skateboarding – about going blank and just being overcome by the mission.
Recently, Jerry Hsu said that having to work around his age and past injuries gave him a different perspective on MADE. Reynolds has spoke about having to do something different too, rather than focusing on just what is ‘better’ for this video. Whereas going way back, Heath Kirchart stepped away from professional skateboarding after Mind Field  / Stay Gold to bow out gracefully. Do you think that figuring out your own longevity is one of the hardest aspects of professional skateboarding?
Yeah, even though the change in my lifestyle made me feel ‘young’ again in some ways that is still super relative because there is just no way around it. You can’t do what you used to be able to do with your body after twenty years of jumping down shit. After being a child influenced by Zero videos and dropping off fucking garbage bins and roofs when you’re eleven years old, you just can’t maintain that forever. As much as I like to think that I’m in the best shape of my life, I’m also thirty-two and can’t keep jumping as much as I would like to. So yeah it is always a struggle with what your body will actually let you do.
For yourself, Andrew and Jerry, I felt that MADE presented an interesting change of approach but without feeling so foreign to your previous video parts. There is an impression it was a scaled down in terms of the location too. But that’s a good thing, everything is more local now and people enjoy that because it gives a more grassroots feel.
Part of that is all of us getting older, having to adjust and try and do new things without having to go a stair higher on the tricks we know how to do. It’s funny because there is a lot of stuff from each one us, Jerry, Herman, Andrew, myself; we were jumping down shit but maybe that will just be in the B-Sides. We missed on a couple of main things.
But I think another part of it is the video is filmed in LA. The atmosphere is that we’re skating school yards because we aren’t travelling much and know we aren’t going to get the majority of our footage on a filming mission to China. Jerry and I getting together a lot of the time like, “What are we gonna hit his weekend?” and just skate the stuff we know, the LA spots we think look sick; it’s hanging around at those spots we love that kind of formed the video. I’m glad it looks that way to you although I have to say it was very unconscious really. It’s just doing what you can with your surroundings.
Emerica really does shine through as a more of a ‘family’ and people are almost raised with the company rather than getting on at a certain point in their career. You’re no exception and the same goes for Bryan Herman, Leo Romero, Brandon Westgate and Figgy [Justin Figueroa]. On the other hand, Jon Dickson was welcomed to the team in MADE Chapter Two but that feels special because is it’s kind of a rare thing for riders to be welcomed within a full length video. It represents the more ‘traditional’ side of skateboarding that Emerica has helped carry the torch for throughout the years. Would you agree?
Absolutely and I don’t think that would have worked with anyone besides Dickson. That just happened to be the perfect fucking dude for that to happen to. All the circumstances just led up to that so it was a no-brainer even before seeing all the footage he already had. All of a sudden he was in the van. We hear he might get on the team and then the kind of shit he is doing we’re like, “God damn, of course.” And with that, anyone who is going to come on board is going to come on because they believe in the Emerica team and the brand and that still means a lot. They’re not gonna come on for a massive pay cheque like they would for another brand that can just afford to hook them up like that.
Right, we’re almost done. Best memory of Heath Kirchart as a fellow team rider?
My best memory of Heath is being on trips and betting on tricks. Whether you’re the one skating or if you’re off on the sidelines he got super into betting on whether somebody was going to make a trick. You would be trying a trick and suddenly everyone would be screaming if you mess up, (laughs).
Best quote from Heath as a team manager?
Fuck, there wasn’t a lot, (laughs).
I didn’t think that through, sorry, (laughs). Thanks a lot for your time, Kevin.
(Laughs), it’s all good. Thank you. It’s been my pleasure.
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