On that note, do you feel the process of creating a pro model shoe can be played a too safe nowadays?
Well, some people don’t have that luxury, you know? They have to play within certain boundaries based on the business side of things, on sales basically, and sometimes that means that the retail side of things can control and limit creativity. It sucks but things like that do happen and like I said, I had this opportunity to do something unique because I also have a sort of padding by having the Koston 1 there as your ‘go to’ skate shoe. That’s there, this is to try and push something new.
You came up in a time where being progressive, tech or jumping down stairs stood out more so than today where there seems to be a shift in focus to quirkier tricks and spots: being at a later stage in your career, is that something of a relief to you? That you can film without doing the most insane things, or having to jump so much like you have in the past and still be relevant and interesting to people?
I mean it’s cool because it’s fun. This is a part of skateboarding that has been around for a long time. Because I’ve lived through a lot of eras, to me these are tricks that I feel might be new to somebody younger. Like to you, this is kind of a new style of skating. To me, this is what was going on in the 80s, the mid-to-late 80s, tricks being done by a lot of street skaters at the forefront at that point. I learned all those tricks back then because those were the street tricks and I think it’s cool to see people and young kids gravitating towards that stuff because it’s so fun. I’ve done it before because I’ve been around, but I still appreciate that type of skating and I feel like a lot of that came through in my Chomp On This  part. It’s kind of dorking around, but it’s also really fun skating.
Do you feel it’s out of necessity that your skating changed while filming Chronicles or was it just wanting to do something a little less technical compared to your previous sections?
A little bit of both, a little bit of what I can do, where I’m at and based on the landscape I’ve got in front of me. The trips we went on, what we skated and just utilising that canvas. But that’s what Chronicles; I think, showed and hopefully showed the fun side of it too. We had a really good time making it; it was a good crew of dudes.
How you do think the career of a skateboarder compares to that of an NBA player or more mainstream sportsperson? Would you agree that while a professional skateboarder isn’t exposed as much, a pro skater’s actions are scrutinized much more?
Yeah. Well they weren’t before but I think social media changed that completely. Say a basketball player, especially if you’re a good one, the spotlight is on you so any time that you fuck up it’s broadcasted. Now that happens on somewhat of a big scale because it can travel through social networking so quickly, it’s really weird that it has become like that, (laughs). But it’s happening and you have to be aware of it, you’ve got to be careful of what you do and say, which is kind of crazy.
I came up during the era of nobody really giving a fuck about what you did beyond what was filmed and seen on videos. Now you have got to be considerate of who is seeing all aspects of what you do as a public figure. You’ve got to remember that there are kids who look up to you. You have to think about that, there’s a responsibility there. Sometimes you have to take a step back and look at yourself in a different perspective because you can influence people.